Прошу совета...Продажа фото с a.net

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Имею несколько фоток на a.net
и вот такое сегодня пришло письмо:
I am the editor of Airports of the World magazine and I need some photos of (my city) airport to illustrate an article in my next issue.
Do you have photos of the terminal, terminal interior, ATC tower and various aircraft and helicopters at the airport??
If you have hi-res either send them via email or if you prefer a CD. I can supply an address if you need to send a CD. I can also quote you payment rates as well. This is quite urgent - I need the photos next week if possible.

Кто уже сталкивался с такими вещами? Что скажете? Сколько вообще денег берут за такие вещи? Лично меня смущает спешка, отправишь фотки мылом и все, исчезнет товарищ ;) Как сделать все по уму?
 
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I appreciate your interest in my photographs, and I should be able to supply you with high-res copies of them. I have attached preview copies of the photos that are available in 2048x1600 original resolution. Please select the photos that you would like to receive, and inform me of your payment rates. I can accept payments via Western Union wire service.
Sincerely,
вот что ответили
Dear Homogene
Thanks for the quick response and the sample photos - they are great. Once I receive the other selection you mention I shall compile a list of the hi-res ones I require.
I have attached our contributor's guidelines pdf file for your information. The feature will be a four-page one and so I shall probably use about a dozen or so, some of which will be large. Therefore payment will be difficult to determine until the spreads are designed, however, the figures in the guidelines are just the basic rates. Can you confirm your address etc - and do you require payment in dollars?
I am out of the office Friday but I'll get back to you on Monday OK.
Kind regards
Bayer
 
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а вот текст как я понимаю соглашения
специалисты в английском, помогайте :)

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Phantom

Phantom

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Только что получил такое письмо:

"For our monthly employee magazine of Lufthansa Systems we would like to illustrate our article about Eurofly with your picture of one of the airline's planes.

Therefore, we would like to get your allowance for using your picture once in the December issue of the magazine.

It would be great if you could give me some feedback concerning our inquiry.

Thank you very much in advance.

Best regards,

Beatrice Gaczensky

Corporate Communications
Lufthansa Systems Group GmbH"

Вот и думаю, что им ответить - попробовать срубить деньжат или разрешить бесплатно? Я вообще-то не жадный, но с другой стороны вроде фирма солидная и денежная. 8-)

Кто что посоветует?
 
e320

e320

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Homogene, seems like a sound contract. Только подпиши его до того как отправишь фотки. Ещё многое зависит от того где ты находишься? Если ты у нас в РФ, то факсовая копия контракта не канает по нашему законодательсту. Если там, то ок.

Phantom, бери деньги однозначно - больше уважать будут. :beer:
 
Fyodor

Fyodor

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Хех... Контракты, понимаешь... Мне вот китайцы письмо прислали :D - бартер предлагают. Говорят - нет счёта в долларах, сложно оплатить. 3 снимка надо. Т.е. 30 по 3 мои, но заплатить не могут. Так что отошлют журналами. :D :D :D Я думаю - может предложить в юанях оплатить, а банк переведёт? :D
 
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Илья

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Пришло письмо по http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1288769/M/ from press service of ANTONOV ASTC:
...ANTONOV does not protest against using this photo with commercial purpose by you. We hope for your kindnesses in return and kindly ask you to send us this photo in high resolution (no less than 300 dpi) and give us your permission to use it in our corporative issues (non-commercial use).
Очень необычно. Это они делают одолжение, не возражая против использования мной моей фотки?
 
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А у меня была история с "ABC".Нашли они меня через форум,им фотка с двумя ночными В-747 понравилась.Не буду имен называть,соеденили они меня с арт-дизайнером,который долго рапрашивал о фотографии.Предложили 50$(мне в данной ситуации был интересен сам процесс передачи фото),согласился.Девушка сказала,что согласует все с руководством и перезвонит! ВСЁ! :D Тишина!
 
Fyodor

Fyodor

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Илья, я от них такое же нахальное :wink: письмо получал - посмотри в ЛС минут через 15-20.
 
Анджей Лотниски

Анджей Лотниски

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нет, они просят вас прислать им фотку эту с целью некоммерческого использования :)
 
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Fyodor

Fyodor

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geg, тривиальная, увы, история. Тут надо закладываться на риски по недобросовестным контрагентам - они неизбежны, к сожалению. Особенно в России.
 
Boris

Boris

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Раз уж подняли тему... Тоже приходило письмецо от какого французского издательства.

We are french publisher (www.marines-editions.com), and for a book about navies aircraft, I am interested by some of your photos on Airliners.net. Please let me know if you have some on the following list :
AgustaBell AB 212
Bell UH-1 Twin Huey
Casa C-212
MBB BO-105
Eurocopter Fennec
HAL Dhruv
Eurocopter Cougar
Kamov Ka27/Ka29/Ka31
Mig 29K
Sikorski s-92
Sukhoi Su-33/Su-27 KUB
high rez files (300dpi) can be sent using our ftp site
ftp://ftp.ouestfrance-multimedia.com/
utilisateur (login) : xxx
mot de passe (password) : xxx
As payment, I propose you free books for a value of 100 euros (to be chosen in our site www.marines-editions.com), or 50 euros for each photo published.
Sincerely,
Gilles Garidel, managing editor
g.garidel@marines-editions.com


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Написал, что да как, а в ответ - тоже тишина :wink:
 
ivandalavia

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если бы вы видели откуда:eek: :eek: :eek: мне письмо пришло...................:D :D :D
 
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У меня была история с ВИМ авиа. Я отснял для них учебный процесс стюардесс. Денег не заплатили, но... договорились о дальнейшем сотрудничестве. Наобещали мне, что посадят меня в самолет и отправят меня куда-то во Францию, на какой-то горнолыжный курорт, чтобы я снял их самолет и пассажиров в этом французком порту. Что, во время полета, устроят мне фотосессию на борту и в кабине пилотов... В общем.... я до сих пор жду этого сказочного перелёта...:D А фотографии мои, гады, опубликовали в своём журнале, только не указали мою фамилию, ну и денег, конечно, тоже не заплатили...:rolleyes:
 
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Мелихов Александр

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У меня тоже пара смешных ситуаций была.
Один раз немцы взяли пару фоток в статью про Ан-26,
упорно перечисляли мне 30 евриков, и они каждый раз
почему то вертались назад к ним :wink:
в итоге прислали журнал в НН,
он уже год как лежит по адресу родителей, не видел его.
Второй раз Авиация и Время попросили и прислали журнал,
а через месяц в спешке к МАКСу сляпали буклет, не дождавшись оригинала,
фоту с Анета в 1200 пикселей растянули на разворот (о боже),
и весь лист в клеточку стал... Этот номер я в магазине видел...
Остальные публикации совсем халявные, либо на дружественной основе.:wink:
 
Сеня

Сеня

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Пришло письмо по http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1288769/M/ from press service of ANTONOV ASTC:
...ANTONOV does not protest against using this photo with commercial purpose by you. We hope for your kindnesses in return and kindly ask you to send us this photo in high resolution (no less than 300 dpi) and give us your permission to use it in our corporative issues (non-commercial use).
Очень необычно. Это они делают одолжение, не возражая против использования мной моей фотки?
Если этот самолёт их собственность то они совершенно правы. Любое серьёзное агентство или издательство для коммерческих целей захочет поиметь так называемый "Property Release", причём на бумаге и с подписью. Тоже касается и картинок с присутствием узнаваемых (в некоторых случаях даже неузнаваемых) людей - нужен "Model Release". Тут есть немного по теме (англ) http://www.asmp.org/commerce/legal/releases/ Там разговор про штаты, но, сдаётся мне, в Европе та-же пестня.
Для личного использования или продажи\публикации самим фотографом без этого можно обойтись, самому потом, если чё, судиться придётся с владельцом или моделью.
 
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Fyodor

Fyodor

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Внимательно читаем:
"unless you are certain that you will never want to use them for anything other than editorial purposes."

Т.е. я в праве по американским законам продавать это фото в любые издания по своему усмотрению. Я думаю, что если бы model release относилось бы к репортажной съёмке - на земле не было бы газет и журналов с фотографиями.

Замечу, что ни в России, ни на Украине подобных ограничений нет.