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Была ведь ещё история с AVRO Arrow. Тоже был продвинутый проект. И тоже правительство зарубило. Да и сейчас уровень дебилизма в канадском правительстве through the roof
Новости компании Bombardier
astoronny
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Вся разница только в том, что Arrow зарубило правительство консерваторов, а Jetliner - либералов.
Что самое интересное -- объяснения зарубов были весьма схожими
...но, как я вспоминаю, список похереных программ с начала 50-х по середину 60-х был значительно длинней...
Не по сеньке шапка!
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В Канаде нет никакой разницы между либералами и консерваторами, как минимум последние 20 лет. Они друг у друга воруют предвыборные обещания которые потом одинаково не исполняют. Результат один, кто мог что-то делать уехали из страны. Да и бомбардье оставила жирный след ошибок позади себя.Вся разница только в том, что Arrow зарубило правительство консерваторов, а Jetliner - либералов.
Что самое интересное -- объяснения зарубов были весьма схожими
...но, как я вспоминаю, список похереных программ с начала 50-х по середину 60-х был значительно длинней...
Не по сеньке шапка!
astoronny
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Считается, что в те годы разница таки была, но я все больше в этом сомневаюсь...
astoronny
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Attention: G8000
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This former Toronto airport runway will be transformed into the city’s largest playground for one weekend only
The free two-day celebration in Toronto will have no cars, just bikes, scooters, skates, strollers and skateboards.
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Помнится, один таксист в девяностых мне рассказывал, что рядом/под заводом там был(в то время) секретный военный ангар, из которого по сигналу NORAD должны были взмывать отважные канадские F-18 и всё сбивать нафик.Attention: G8000
This former Toronto airport runway will be transformed into the city’s largest playground for one weekend only
The free two-day celebration in Toronto will have no cars, just bikes, scooters, skates, strollers and skateboards.
astoronny
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ХЗ, очень может быть...
Лучше сидеть в дежурном звене в центре Торонто, чем (как сейчас) в Cold Lake.
G8000
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Вот теперь как выглядит сборочная линия в Торонто
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Attention: G8000
This former Toronto airport runway will be transformed into the city’s largest playground for one weekend only
The free two-day celebration in Toronto will have no cars, just bikes, scooters, skates, strollers and skateboards.
Еще бы из России можно было бы прочитать.
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Eric Martel, СЕО не исключает возможности приобретения части комплекса производства в Северной Ирландии. Ранее при неадлежвшая БА комапния Shorts Bros является поствщиков комплектующих для G56 и Challenger. Была продана Spirit в 2020м году. Также на этом заводе собрают крыло для теперяшнего А220. В
также говорится о финасновом статусе компании
Bombardier is still not ruling out acquiring part of its former Belfast site to safeguard production of the Global and Challenger fuselages that are built there.
Speaking during a second quarter results presentation on 31 July, chief executive Eric Martel described the Northern Irish plant – the troubled owner of which, Spirit AeroSystems, is in the process of being acquired by Boeing – as an “important asset for us”.
One outcome is that Bombardier continues to source the aerostructures from Boeing, with Martel admitting that the process of carving out and buying a section of the facility – which also makes wings for Airbus’s A220 – would be “very complicated”.
However, he adds: “We will see what will happen next. We remain open to an acquisition. We are focused now on getting the right quality of fuselage we need to build our planes.”
Bombardier owned the former Short Brothers plant from 1989 until its sale to Spirit in 2020, manufacturing structures for its business jets and designing and producing the wing of the then-CSeries, before the programme’s transfer to Airbus, which renamed it the A220.
Bombardier also reports its strongest quarterly order tally in more than a decade, largely thanks to an order for 50 Global and Challenger jets, with 70 options, from an unnamed new customer.
The commitment, reported on 1 July and valued by Bombardier at $1.7 billion, helped boost the Canadian airframer’s backlog in the second three months of the year to $16.1 billion – a year-on-year increase of $1.9 billion. The manufacturer’s book-to-bill – the ratio of new orders to shipments – also rose to 2.3.
With 36 aircraft deliveries during the quarter – three fewer than in the same period last year – revenues at the Montreal-based firm fell 8% to just over $2 billion. However, Martel says demand remains strong for all its products and the company is on track to meet its 2025 guidance.
Martel points to strong performances by Bombardier’s growing service operation as well as its Wichita-based defence business.
Services revenues were up 16% year-on-year to $590 million. The airframer, which has been investing heavily in its services footprint in recent years, is building a new maintenance facility in Abu Dhabi and adding a paint shop at London Biggin Hill.
He says there is “strong traction” for its defence products – Bombardier largely supplies platforms to prime contractor partners – as countries step up military spending. Among its programmes, the manufacturer is developing with Italy’s Leonardo a Global 6500-based maritime multi-mission aircraft and collaborates with Sweden’s Saab on the GlobalEye surveillance aircraft, based on the Global 6000.
Martel is confident that threatened punitive tariffs on Canada by the Donald Trump administration will continue to exclude aircraft. “Since [Trump’s election in November 2024] we have always assessed the risk to be low for our industry,” he says, pointing to the fact that aerospace products have been tariff-free across most of the world since 1979 and that the USA is a net exporter.
“Changing that today will be very challenging,” he says.
Bombardier’s sole in-development programme, the Global 8000 – an update of its Global 7500 flagship – flew for the first time in May and continues to be on track for service entry this year, Martel says.
Speaking during a second quarter results presentation on 31 July, chief executive Eric Martel described the Northern Irish plant – the troubled owner of which, Spirit AeroSystems, is in the process of being acquired by Boeing – as an “important asset for us”.
One outcome is that Bombardier continues to source the aerostructures from Boeing, with Martel admitting that the process of carving out and buying a section of the facility – which also makes wings for Airbus’s A220 – would be “very complicated”.
However, he adds: “We will see what will happen next. We remain open to an acquisition. We are focused now on getting the right quality of fuselage we need to build our planes.”
Bombardier owned the former Short Brothers plant from 1989 until its sale to Spirit in 2020, manufacturing structures for its business jets and designing and producing the wing of the then-CSeries, before the programme’s transfer to Airbus, which renamed it the A220.
Bombardier also reports its strongest quarterly order tally in more than a decade, largely thanks to an order for 50 Global and Challenger jets, with 70 options, from an unnamed new customer.
The commitment, reported on 1 July and valued by Bombardier at $1.7 billion, helped boost the Canadian airframer’s backlog in the second three months of the year to $16.1 billion – a year-on-year increase of $1.9 billion. The manufacturer’s book-to-bill – the ratio of new orders to shipments – also rose to 2.3.
With 36 aircraft deliveries during the quarter – three fewer than in the same period last year – revenues at the Montreal-based firm fell 8% to just over $2 billion. However, Martel says demand remains strong for all its products and the company is on track to meet its 2025 guidance.
Martel points to strong performances by Bombardier’s growing service operation as well as its Wichita-based defence business.
Services revenues were up 16% year-on-year to $590 million. The airframer, which has been investing heavily in its services footprint in recent years, is building a new maintenance facility in Abu Dhabi and adding a paint shop at London Biggin Hill.
He says there is “strong traction” for its defence products – Bombardier largely supplies platforms to prime contractor partners – as countries step up military spending. Among its programmes, the manufacturer is developing with Italy’s Leonardo a Global 6500-based maritime multi-mission aircraft and collaborates with Sweden’s Saab on the GlobalEye surveillance aircraft, based on the Global 6000.
Martel is confident that threatened punitive tariffs on Canada by the Donald Trump administration will continue to exclude aircraft. “Since [Trump’s election in November 2024] we have always assessed the risk to be low for our industry,” he says, pointing to the fact that aerospace products have been tariff-free across most of the world since 1979 and that the USA is a net exporter.
“Changing that today will be very challenging,” he says.
Bombardier’s sole in-development programme, the Global 8000 – an update of its Global 7500 flagship – flew for the first time in May and continues to be on track for service entry this year, Martel says.
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нашел ролик гонки шасси. это еще Downsview
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Korean Air and LIG Nex1 partner to bid for South Korean electronic warfare aircraft programme
The aircraft will be based on the Global 6500 business jet
Сомневаюсь что двигатели будут рады такой калабахе по борту фюзеляжа перед ними. а ещеесли кусок этого отлетит по прямо в мотор..
Korean Air confirms that a Bombardier Global 6500 business jet will form the basis of its EW aircraft proposal, and be comparable to the L3Harris EA-37B Compass Call electronic attack aircraft that entered US Air Force service in 2024 – the EA-37B is based on the Gulfstream G550.
Should the joint bid succeed, Korean Air will take care of system integration, aircraft modification and production, while LIG Nex1 will develop and install the EW gear. Korean Air observes that LIG Nex1 has experience developing EW systems, including for the developmental Korea Aerospace Industries KF-21 fighter.
The companies will submit their proposal by the end of September.
Korean Air notes that Seoul has set aside W1.8 trillion ($1.3 billion) for the EW aircraft programme.
In April 2023, Seoul’s Defense Project Promotion Committee had earmarked W1.85 billion to develop an EW aircraft in the 2024-2032 timeframe.
A dedicated EW aircraft would give South Korea the ability to disrupt North Korea’s dense air-defence networks, jamming radars and communications to clear the way for strike aircraft. It would also enhance protection for allied forces by detecting and countering hostile signals across the peninsula’s heavily militarised battlespace.
Should the joint bid succeed, Korean Air will take care of system integration, aircraft modification and production, while LIG Nex1 will develop and install the EW gear. Korean Air observes that LIG Nex1 has experience developing EW systems, including for the developmental Korea Aerospace Industries KF-21 fighter.
The companies will submit their proposal by the end of September.
Korean Air notes that Seoul has set aside W1.8 trillion ($1.3 billion) for the EW aircraft programme.
In April 2023, Seoul’s Defense Project Promotion Committee had earmarked W1.85 billion to develop an EW aircraft in the 2024-2032 timeframe.
A dedicated EW aircraft would give South Korea the ability to disrupt North Korea’s dense air-defence networks, jamming radars and communications to clear the way for strike aircraft. It would also enhance protection for allied forces by detecting and countering hostile signals across the peninsula’s heavily militarised battlespace.
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Это корейский стелс. Мы еще половины всего в нем не видим…
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Точно. Уже выхлопной трубы ВСУ не видно, SVS и аварийного выхода. А под тот обтекатель еще и заливная горловина центрального бака попадаетЭто корейский стелс. Мы еще половины всего в нем не видим…
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Годовой отчет по рынку бизнесс самолетов. Этот относится к планеру. Представляет из себя обзор милю в ширину и дюйм в глубину. Также в ссылке дают документ отчета котрый я сюда прикрепил
www.ainonline.com
AIN Product Support Survey 2025 | AIN
Bombardier remains on top among bizjet OEMs in annual survey
www.ainonline.com
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New edition GE Aerospace engine certified to power Bombardier Global 8000
A new edition of GE Aerospace’s Passport engine, designed to power the Bombardier Global 8000, has been certified by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and Transport Canada.
On August 25, 2025, GE Aerospace confirmed that a “critical milestone” had been achieved as Bombardier continues towards full certification of its latest and fastest executive jet.
The Passport engine is already used on the Gobal 7500, but its latest iteration includes more thrust capability, higher fuel efficiency and enables the aircraft to operate over greater distances.
Bombardier Global 8000 GE Aerospace engine certified by FAA
A new edition of GE Aerospace's Passport engine, designed to power the Bombardier Global 8000, has been certified by the FAA and Transport Canada.
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Странно выглядит самолётик.New edition GE Aerospace engine certified to power Bombardier Global 8000
Посмотреть вложение 865537
A new edition of GE Aerospace’s Passport engine, designed to power the Bombardier Global 8000, has been certified by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and Transport Canada.
On August 25, 2025, GE Aerospace confirmed that a “critical milestone” had been achieved as Bombardier continues towards full certification of its latest and fastest executive jet.
The Passport engine is already used on the Gobal 7500, but its latest iteration includes more thrust capability, higher fuel efficiency and enables the aircraft to operate over greater distances.
Bombardier Global 8000 GE Aerospace engine certified by FAA
A new edition of GE Aerospace's Passport engine, designed to power the Bombardier Global 8000, has been certified by the FAA and Transport Canada.
Нос короткий, двигатели огромные. Интерено, насколько задняя у него центровка, как у него с продольной устойчивостью и может ли он летать на руках без FBW?
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Полагаю, для снижения балансировочных потерь (дальность!) загнали центровку как можно заднее.
Хотя, вроде бы, оперение композитное.
Если ты имеешь в виду direct mode, то такой режим имеется.
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На сколько приходится у него стабилизатор отклонять, чтобы его сбалансировать?
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Сразу за гермошпангоутом перед плоскостью кромки двигателей есть хвостовой бак на 2200 фунтов топлива. В полете сначала расходуется центральный бак (подфюзеляжный), далее внутренний крылевой (видимые 10 панелей, до 13й нервюры). Все это время идет перекачка топлива во внешний крыльевой бак (после 13й нервюры) поддерживая уровень 92-97 %. Когда во внутреннем (левом или правом) остается 10850 фунтов прекачка во вешний бак прекращается. Все топливо возвращается из внешнего бака во внетуренний самотеком за где-то 20 минут. Когда внутренний крылевой достигает 42% (6300 фунтов) включается перекачка из заднего бака плностью до нуля (минут 10 занимает).
Таким образом максимально поддерживается оптимальные центровки для минимального отклонения стабилизатора и разгружается крыло.
Стабилизатор имеет электрические ограничения от -12.5 градусов до +4.5 градусов. Работает в автомате, есть ручное триммирование (как и во всех каналах).
Помимо NORMAL в FBW есть три DIRECT MODEs. FBW реализована в REUs (Remote Electronics Units) - "основной DIRECT". В NORMAL управление идет из REU в PFCC где происходит аугментация системы управления, а также PFCC работают в DIRECT при отказе сигналов из самолетных систем. Третий DIRECT реализуется через отдельный AFCU (Alternate Flight Computer Unit) со своей командной и мониторинговой цепью