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UNLL
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Вам и ответили. А что, форумные эксперты не могут понять, что изменится если все 2х двигательные заогонят под etops 120?
G8000
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The development of ETOPS
Early ETOPS
The first twin-engine widebody aircraft was the Airbus A300. Since 1976, the aircraft had been flying under a 90-minute IACO rule across the Bay of Bengal, the North Atlantic, and the Indian Ocean. It has been reported that the then Boeing director of engineering, Dick Taylor, approached the director of FAA, J. Lynn Helms, to wonder if an exemption could be granted. J. Lynn Helms, then retorted:A year after the Boeing 767-200ER entered service, the FAA increased the ETOPS to 120 minutes at single-engine cruise speed.
What Is ETOPS & How Has It Evolved?
Humorously known as "engines turn or passengers swim", ETOPS has changed aviation regulations along the way.
simpleflying.com
В начале 2000х у Virgin было отключение двух генераторов в полете и то ли в связи с этим то ли из-за этого задумались что 4 двигателя не серебрянная пуля на дальних перелетах. И по размеру большие самолеты могут сесть не в каждом аэропорту если надо. В итоге ETOPS эволюционировал в EDTO.
Extended Range Operations | SKYbrary Aviation Safety
EXTENDED DIVERSION TIME OPERATIONS (EDTO) The Regulatory Context ICAO Requirements for Extended Range Twin-engine Operations (ETOPS) have been in place since 1985, when they were introduced to apply an overall level of operational safety for twin-engined aeroplanes which was consistent with that...
skybrary.aero
After many years of discussion about how to broaden the facilitation of international flights for all large transport aeroplanes which necessitated tracks with no close-by diversion aerodromes (or could be more efficiently routed with the use of these tracks), led in 2012 to changes to ICAO Annex 6 Part 1 under Amendment 36. This introduced the Extended Diversion Time Operations (EDTO) regime in place of ETOPS. However since then, although the EDTO regime has been widely accepted, the term EDTO has not been universally adopted the continued use of ETOPS is explicitly allowed for in Annex 6 provided that EDTO concepts "are correctly embodied in the concerned regulation or documentation". Given this flexibility, the term 'ETOPS' has been retained by the FAA and others by redefining it as an abbreviation for 'ExTended range OPerationS' rather than as previously 'Extended range Twin OPerationS'. EASA currently continues to use ETOPS as originally defined and the abbreviation 'LROPS' (Long Range OPerationS) for extended range operation by three and four-engined aircraft.
G8000
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Первый ETOPS 90 - А300
Первый ETOPS 120 - 767-200ER
Первый ETOPS 180 - 777 (1995) у них был рекламный баннер ETOPS out of the box
Про вакханалию - о чем речь, источник?
Предел 120 - аргументы в пользу сказанного?
Последнее редактирование:
G8000
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UNLL,
сократится дистанция ухода на запасной аэродром по маршруту? кто и что именно здесь не может понять?
UNLL
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Маршрут проложите из пекина в Нью-Йорк с учётом этопс 330 и этопс 120. А вакханалия, по другому назвать не могу, когда типу дают этопс 330 до окончания испытаний. Ну а 120,личное мнение, исходя из опыта работы.
G8000
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Пекин- Нью-Йорк это не единственный ETOPS маршрут
Ту-204 здесь не рулит бал от слова совсем. Или у вас есть другой опыт?
Дайте ссылку на вашу историю про 330. что там произошло?
G8000
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вот что выдал ИИ в гугле
ETOPS-330 approval, allowing twin-engine aircraft to fly routes up to 330 minutes from an alternate airport, has seen significant milestones in its history. The Boeing 777, with certain engine configurations, was the first to receive FAA type-design approval for ETOPS-330 in 2011. The Boeing 787 followed in 2014. In 2015, the Boeing 747-8 Intercontinental became the first four-engine aircraft to receive ETOPS-330 approval. The first commercial ETOPS-330 flight was operated by Air New Zealand in 2015 using a Boeing 777-200ER.
Here's a more detailed timeline:
- 2007:
The FAA began allowing twin-engine aircraft registered in the U.S. to operate under ETOPS-180.
- 2009:
The Airbus A330 became the first aircraft to receive ETOPS-240 approval.
- 2011:
The Boeing 777 series, specifically those equipped with GE engines, received FAA type-design approval for ETOPS-330.
- 2014:
The Boeing 787 received ETOPS-330 certification from the FAA, enabling operators like LAN Airlines (now LATAM) to utilize the 787 on routes previously flown by the Airbus A340.
- 2015:
Air New Zealand operated the first ETOPS-330 flight on December 1, 2015, using a Boeing 777-200ER between Auckland and Buenos Aires.
- 2015:
The Boeing 747-8 Intercontinental received ETOPS-330 approval, making it the first four-engine aircraft to be approved for such operations.
Вот статья выходит в поиске
ETOPS: History, Evolution, Current Applications
The aviation industry has many acronyms that reference everything from take-off delays to airport names, and one that stands out is ETOPS.
www.airwaysmag.com
Years later, in 2007, the FAA decided that twin-engine aircraft operations that are registered in the United States would be able to increase to the 180 ETOPS rating. In 2009, the Airbus A330 became the first aircraft to receive ETOPS-240 approval. Two years after that, in 2011, the FAA gave Boeing’s type design, equipped with GE engines, an ETOPS rating of 330 minutes of extended operations.
In 2015, Air New Zealand (NZ) operated the first ETOPS-330 flight between the carrier’s hub in Auckland and Buenos Aires, Argentina, using a Boeing 777-200 ER. Then, in May 2014, the Boeing 787 received an ETOPS 330 rating that allowed Chilean-based LAN Airlines to use its Boeing 787 Dreamliners instead of an Airbus A340 between its Santiago to Sydney and Santiago to Auckland routes.
Before Airbus introduced the Airbus A350XWB in 2015, regulations in North America and Europe gave aircraft an ETOPS rating of 180 minutes upon entry into service. Additionally, the Airbus A350XWB was the first aircraft to receive an ETOPS rating of 370 from European authorities before entering into service. The Boeing 747-8 Intercontinental aircraft also received an ETOPS rating of 330 in 2015, and it was the first four-engine aircraft to receive a rating of 330.
Подсказка - над атлантикой нет ETOPS-330
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